he said that previously about chuck hagel. [ ♪ "jeopardy" theme ♪ ] >> stephanie: who said hagel understands the world better than almost anyone. who said that? >> some hypocrite? >> stephanie: right. [ buzzer ] [ ding ding ] >> stephanie: that would be senator lamar alexander from tennessee. seem to have a different feeling about him at some previous point. senator dick durbin yesterday. >> a person has a -- include service on the foreign relationses committee. yes, he's a serious candidate. >> stephanie: just a little. let's go to howard in pittsburgh. you're on "the stephanie miller show." hi howard. >> good morning. >> stephanie: good morning. >> caller: yes, i'm 71 years old. i'm originally from upstate new york. utica, new york. >> stephanie: utica, all right. >> caller: i was fortunate to meet robert francis kennedy and i worked for the airline up there and we worked on the kennedy airplane. >> stephanie: oh wow. >> caller: one thing i've noticed about the kennedys and martin luther king is that they had a word that -- to me, as a progressive democrat is empathy. and i find that -- i